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The Zaandam, which is currently anchored off the coast of Panama, is now at least the third Carnival-owned ship to become the site of a coronavirus outbreak.

The company said in a statement that “four older guests have passed away on Zaandam,” but did not specify whether they died of COVID-19. “No one has been off the ship since March 14 in Punta Arenas, Chile.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/27/four-dead-on-carnival-cruise-ship-amid-new-coronavirus-outbreak-aboard.html

OK, guess we have to choose what the best candidates for risky behaviour is:

1) Lick an ATM keypad
2) Fly on a 737 Max
3) Sail on a cruise in 2020.

I'll  choose No, No, and No
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"Two passengers who traveled on the Grand Princess cruise ship have died, and at least 103 have been confirmed positive for the new coronavirus, federal officials said Thursday, raising questions about whether the virus could continue to spread further as those who had been on board end their federal quarantine and return home."

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/03/26/coronavirus-first-known-deaths-from-stricken-grand-princess-cruise-ship-103-infected/
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Cruising Chatter / Four passengers died aboard Holland America’s “Zaandam”
« Last post by Host Mike on March 28, 2020, 03:31:55 PM »
"Four passengers died aboard Holland America’s “Zaandam” cruise ship and two people on board tested positive for the coronavirus, the company announced Friday.

The company, which is owned by parent Carnival Corp., did not say how many passengers and crew were tested but said 53 passengers and 85 crew members are exhibiting symptoms consistent with the coronavirus. There are more than 1,800 people aboard the ship, the company said, adding that four doctors and four nurses are also on board.

The Zaandam, which is currently anchored off the coast of Panama, is now at least the third Carnival-owned ship to become the site of a coronavirus outbreak.

The company said in a statement that “four older guests have passed away on Zaandam,” but did not specify whether they died of COVID-19. “No one has been off the ship since March 14 in Punta Arenas, Chile.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/27/four-dead-on-carnival-cruise-ship-amid-new-coronavirus-outbreak-aboard.html
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Princess News & Princess Chatter / You snoozed, you losed
« Last post by Host Mike on March 26, 2020, 07:39:00 PM »
CCL stock mid $7 a share range a week ago and now it's almost $19 a share.  You snoozed, you really losed - at the moment.

Update:  Since Carnival didn't apparently get a Federal bailout the stock price is can widely vary.
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The Coral Princess set sail from Santiago in Chile on March 5 for a 32-day cruise in the Latin American region, but is now steaming back to its final destination, Fort Lauderdale in Florida.

http://www.royalgazette.com/news/article/20200326/twenty-two-bermudians-left-on-cruise-ship
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Cruising Chatter / Re: Let Them Die ??
« Last post by RichC on March 25, 2020, 10:21:45 AM »
From what I can gather this morning, the new stimulus package doesn't mention anything about supporting the cruise lines.
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Cruising Chatter / Re: Let Them Die ??
« Last post by TrishEd on March 25, 2020, 08:49:39 AM »
I agree. They used the foreign registration for so many years to skirt the taxes. Let them use the profits and reduce or cancel the salaries of all the CEO,CIO,COO AND everything C  they they have created over the years for friends
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Cruising Chatter / Let Them Die ??
« Last post by RichC on March 24, 2020, 05:56:26 PM »
As much as I would hate to see any of the cruise lines go under I think they've got a point in this article. It may be time for the cruise lines to change their ways if they want help.

Foreign-flagged cruise lines have no business asking for a U.S. bailout now.

Yesterday, Donald Trump again insisted that we "can't let the cruise lines go out of business." This has become conventional pundit wisdom after two commercial cruise ships became high-profile coronavirus hot zones. The cruise ship industry is in dire trouble, as are all travel-related industries.

That doesn't mean American taxpayers need to bail them out now. The cruise industry has done everything in its power to skirt U.S. laws, regulations, and taxes. None of the major cruise lines fly the flags of the United States—every ship is registered in another country, one with lax environmental protections, labor protections, and other rules that make it easier to squeeze out maximum profits at public expense. Now those foreign-flagged ships want United States bailouts? No. That was a choice these companies made; now they have to live with it.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/23/1930451/-Let-them-die-Foreign-flagged-cruise-lines-have-no-business-asking-for-a-U-S-bailout-now
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Princess News & Princess Chatter / Re: As if it couldn't get worse.
« Last post by RichC on March 24, 2020, 06:46:37 AM »
I just heard that on this mornings news & was really surprised. Unless they can come up with a vaccine to stop this virus I believe we've got a long road ahead of us - especially for the cruise industry.

There's so much repetitive news lately that I've become almost numb listening to it every day & just pick up the highlights from time to time each evening.
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Princess News & Princess Chatter / Re: Carnival CEO defends coronavirus response
« Last post by TrishEd on March 24, 2020, 04:52:29 AM »
You know allof these CEO CIO CFO COO AND POS all make me sick. I work part time at Manheim Auto Auction and hear the same story.
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