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« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2012, 08:26:36 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2012, 02:23:53 AM »

"The South Korean couple were located after rescuers heard voices from a cabin two decks down on the half-submerged ship late on Saturday, and they were reached a few hours later.

The man and woman, both 29 years old, were both said to be in good condition when they were brought ashore.

Meanwhile, divers are continuing to comb submerged parts of the ship, which is lying on its side close to a coastal island."



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16564789
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« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2012, 02:34:22 AM »

"Carnival will lose business from customers who were booked on future Concordia voyages, Zackfia said. There will be additional costs that are hard to estimate, she said. The company doesn’t have insurance that covers lost revenue or earnings from its ships or other operations, according to its most recent 10-K, filed in January 2011."

"Carnival carries insurance that covers a number of risks within certain limitations, according to the January 2011 filing. The coverage includes hull and machine insurance, as well as protection and indemnity policy that includes crew and passenger injuries, shipwrecks, damage to third parties and pollution.

The company also had practiced some self insurance in the past, according to Zackfia and to filings.

Carnival had no immediate response to requests for specifics of its coverage.

“This is a company that has a very strong, solid cash flow and balance sheet,” Zackfia said.

With U.S. markets closed tomorrow for the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday, Carnival will trade for the first time following the incident in London. Carnival fell 2.5 percent in New York on Jan. 13, valuing the company at $27.8 billion. The shares declined 29 percent last year."

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-01-14/carnival-ship-mishap-s-timing-may-exacerbate-loss-of-business.html

"The full extent of Carnival’s liabilities as a result of the Costa Corncordia accident remains to be seen. The company’s insurance is a combination of self-insurance — a fund that it maintains for disasters — and policies with high deductibles, according to its financial disclosures.

“We are not protected against all risks, which could result in unexpected increases in our expenses in the event of an incident,” the company’s SEC filings say."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/industries/italian-disaster-unlikely-to-halt-growth-of-cruise-line-industry/2012/01/14/gIQAeMqDzP_story.html?tid=pm_business_pop
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« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2012, 04:24:40 AM »

Thanks Mike. My thoughts and prayers go out to the pax and crew after this tragic incident.

Yes a big impact on Carnival Corp.
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« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2012, 02:21:45 PM »

"The ship probably was on a wrong route, the prosecutor said. The so-called black box was retrieved, Verusio said. Investigators have determined the ship was only about 150 meters (492 feet) from the coast when it hit the rocks, Ansa said.

Captain Schettino said he was the last one to leave the ship, according to an interview broadcast by TGCOM24 before his arrest. The rocks weren’t identified on the navigation maps, Schettino said. The ship was at least 300 meters from the island when it hit the rocks, he said.

The accident was due to a “reckless maneuver,” news Ansa quoted Verusio as saying. Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera said the captain may have steered the boat closer to the coast to allow passengers a better view of the island’s lights."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-14/carnival-corp-cruise-ship-runs-aground-off-italy-killing-at-least-three.html
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« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2012, 02:45:11 PM »

"Italian Coast Guard Cmdr. Francesco Paolillo says officers urged the captain, Francesco Schettino, to return to his ship and honor his duty to stay aboard until everyone else was safely off the vessel, but said Schettino ignored them."

http://travel.usatoday.com/cruises/story/2012-01-15/Prosecutor-says-captain-left-ship-early/52579406/1
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« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2012, 04:34:23 PM »

"Italian Coast Guard Cmdr. Francesco Paolillo says officers urged the captain, Francesco Schettino, to return to his ship and honor his duty to stay aboard until everyone else was safely off the vessel, but said Schettino ignored them."

http://travel.usatoday.com/cruises/story/2012-01-15/Prosecutor-says-captain-left-ship-early/52579406/1

Oh dear.  I hope this does not reflect badly on other Italian Captains/Officers employed on the ships, of whch Princess has many, as we all know.

But maybe too, pax might take lifeboat drill/emergency drills a little more seriously from now on. Many still try to dodge it, as we know. Huh
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« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2012, 05:03:01 PM »

"The coastguard said divers had found the bodies of two unidentified elderly men trapped in a flooded area.

Earlier three survivors were found, more than 24 hours after the ship ran aground near a Tuscan island.

Coastguard spokesman Filipino Marin said the two elderly victims were "found on the third floor in a meeting area section of the ship".

He said the bodies were being taken to the mainland for identification.

Shortly before they were recovered, Tuscan regional official Enrich Rossi said 17 people remained unaccounted for."



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« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2012, 05:08:48 PM »

"The mother of a dancer from Blackpool who worked on the Costa Concordia cruise liner that ran aground off Italy said her daughter was in a magician's box when it crashed.

Her mother Claire said she had received a phone call from her daughter, telling her the ship was sinking.

She said: "Rosalyn was a bit hysterical, saying the ship was sinking. But seeing she's a dancer and they do drama, I just thought it was all a bit surreal.

"You don't hear about big ships sinking like that nowadays, so I said: 'You'll be fine. Just find your friends'."
Claire Rincon Claire Rincon said she was left "white as a sheet" by the news

Mrs Rincon, from Wayman Road, Layton, said her daughter then told her she had to go as the ship was leaning.

"She was in the middle of magic show [when it ran aground], inside a magic box. And then all the lights went out so she struggled to get out of the box.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-16568850
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« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2012, 05:19:08 PM »

A French couple who boarded the Concordia in Marseille, Ophelie Gondelle and David Du Pays of Marseille, told the AP they saw the captain in a lifeboat, covered by a blanket, well before all the passengers were off the ship. They insisted on telling a reporter what they saw, so incensed that — according to them — the captain had abandoned the ship before everyone had been evacuated.

"The commander left before and was on the dock before everyone was off," said Gondelle, 28, a French military officer.


"Normally the commander should leave at the end," said Du Pays, a police officer who said he helped an injured passenger to a rescue boat. "I did what I could."

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/divers-in-italy-ship-1303806.html
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« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2012, 05:36:45 PM »

"Costa Crociere SpA, the Genoa, Italy-based cruise company, issued a statement late Sunday carried by Italian media saying it "seems that the captain made errors of judgment that had very grave consequences: the route followed the ship turned out to be too close to the coast, and it seems that his decision in handling the emergency didn't follow Costa Crociere's procedures, which are in line, and in some cases, go beyond, international standards."

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/divers-in-italy-ship-1303806.html

Editor comment:  It is very unusual that a company will almost immediately cast blame on an employee in light of the lawsuits against the company that are sure to follow.
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« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2012, 06:02:08 PM »

"But Schettino told reporters he was the last to leave the boat and said rocks had not been detected by the vessel's navigation system.

He said: "What happened is that while we were moving with a tourist navigation system, as you can see by the rip (in the ship) there was a lateral rock projection.

"Even though we were sailing along the coast with the tourist navigation system, I firmly believe that the rocks were not detected as the ship was not heading forward but sideways as if underwater there was this rock projection.

"I don't know if it was detected or not but on the nautical chart it was marked just as water at some 100-150m from the rocks and we were about 300m from the shore, more or less.

"We shouldn't have had this contact."

http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16149523

Editor: A Tourist Navigation System seems to mean that the bridge was navigating for purposes of sightseeing.
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« Reply #42 on: January 15, 2012, 06:34:44 PM »

Survivors alleged that panicked crew members did little to help as the Costa Concordia's 3,206 passengers tried to abandon the listing ship.

"They were incompetent," said Giuseppe Lanzafame, 42, a former sailor who was on board with his wife and two daughters. "They made us stay on deck for an hour and a half without telling us anything. I saw immediately the lack of preparation of the crew members, who didn't know how to lower the lifeboats. Many didn't know how to communicate with us because they did not speak Italian or English," he said.

"At one point I had to explain to one of them how to manoeuvre the lifeboat and I had to take charge of it because they didn't know what to do and were more scared than we were," he added.

Another passenger, Francesco Frontera, said: "The crew, who were mostly Indians, Filipinos, and Sri Lankans, had no thought for saving the old, the children and the disabled. They just ran to be first on the lifeboats."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/15/costa-concordia-purser-saved?newsfeed=true
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« Reply #43 on: January 15, 2012, 07:00:59 PM »

About two hours into the trip, the ship took a detour from its "usual" route to give passengers an up-close view of Giglio's port town by night, according to officials there.

Upon approaching the port, the ship hit a rock that wasn't marked on nautical maps, Mr. Schettino, the captain, would later tell reporters. Instead, the ship struck Le Scole, a well-known rock formation, that skirts the coast of Giglio, according to Italian officials.

On the Italian mainland, the coast guard began receiving scattered complaints from passengers aboard the ship, but the ship's command hadn't yet issued an SOS, according to an Italian official briefed on the matter. At 10:14 p.m., the coast guard made its first call to ship's command to check on the vessel and was told the situation was "under control," the official said. That was hardly the case, passengers said.

"Gross human error" was to blame, Italian Defense Minister Giampaolo Di Paola, an admiral himself, said on state television.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204468004577162540796139040.html

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« Reply #44 on: January 15, 2012, 07:13:45 PM »

"A risky practice by cruise ships of close-passing the island of Giglio in a foghorn-blasting salute to the local population appears to have contributed to the Costa Concordia disaster, officials and witnesses said Sunday.

Some witnesses said the ship was indulging the local population with a spectacular parade past the island in what is known locally as an "inchino" or reverent bow, with its upper decks ablaze with light as many of the passengers sat down to dinner.

Adding weight to the theory, the daily La Stampa on Sunday published a letter dated last August in which Giglio's mayor Sergio Ortelli thanked the Concordia's captain for the "incredible spectacle" of a previous close pass.

The mayor told journalists on the island on Saturday that the normal route for cruise ships heading north from the port of Civitavecchia near Rome takes them to within three to five kilometres (1.8 to 3.1 miles) of Giglio. "Many of them pass close to Giglio to salute the local population with blasts from their sirens."

"It's a very nice show to see, the ship all lit up when you see it from the land. This time round it went wrong," said the mayor.

On Sunday however, Ortelli denied that it was a regular practice to come so close to the island.

"It's not the practice, or in any way a programmed salute but always in safe conditions," he said.

Ortelli said some skippers of Costa cruise liners liked to "pay tribute" to former colleagues who have retired to the island but that this always occurred in "safe conditions".

Francesco Verusio, the Tuscany region's chief prosecutor, said the ship's captain "should not have been sailing so close to the island" and had him arrested for multiple homicide and abandoning his ship before all the passengers were off.

He said that the captain had "approached Giglio in a very awkward manner", which led the ship to "hit a rock that became embedded in its left side, causing it to list and take in an enormous amount of water in the space of two or three minutes."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jPK42cOKRUNVdbW18Y1hun9uMWRQ?docId=CNG.5cc787e57e8731d4ebf300c0b391aad6.511
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