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« on: February 01, 2017, 10:28:04 PM »


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/cruises/what-happens-when-you-flush-the-loo-on-a-cruise-ship-/

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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2017, 07:49:49 AM »


From the article, re: Bilge water:
"Such incidents are rare, however, and in the case of Princess Cruises it was a rogue engineer who was found to be at fault rather than a systematic failure of procedures."

Nobody at the top was the least bit aware of the cost discrepancies between the OWS  (oil water separators) on various vessels. The 'rogue' engineer story is the laugh of this investigation. This practice occurred on several ships, over several years, and not just the CB while in British waters.

From the article, re: treated effluent grey/black water discharges:
"There, all the nasty stuff is filtered out and digested by bacteria. The remaining liquid is disinfected by UV radiation rather than chlorine or other chemicals that would themselves be harmful to marine life.
At this stage, and having been monitored for any remaining bugs such as faecal coliform, it is discharged into the sea “cleaner than the seawater that it might have started out as before being desalinated,” according to Rose."

That's a crock! Threshold values for discharge of total coliform units (TCU's) would only need to be met for compliance. But the laugh is to suggest that multi billion dollar cruise lines would invest in cleaning the effluent to be "cleaner" than influent seawater, and then to 'discharge' the cost added 'product' back into the sea is ludicrous.

This opinion article is 'spin' at it's finest.
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2017, 12:48:32 PM »

"Such incidents are rare, however, and in the case of Princess Cruises it was a rogue engineer who was found to be at fault rather than a systematic failure of procedures."

What I don't quite understand is why did that engineer take it upon himself to set up an illegal discharge pipe?
What would he have to gain by doing so?
Do they get paid by the gallon of waste material or was it just to make himself look better than the engineers on other ships?
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2017, 08:08:55 PM »

"Such incidents are rare, however, and in the case of Princess Cruises it was a rogue engineer who was found to be at fault rather than a systematic failure of procedures."

What I don't quite understand is why did that engineer take it upon himself to set up an illegal discharge pipe?
What would he have to gain by doing so?
Do they get paid by the gallon of waste material or was it just to make himself look better than the engineers on other ships?

Rich,
It would likely be fear of retribution or duress from a senior engineer, or other authority.
The OWS is a cost factor, and the cruise industry is exquisitely fine tuned in cost control.
One scenario would have the engineer being questioned as to why so much oil was showing up in Bilge water (ie, you mustn't be caring for the equipment to allow leaks, and we'll have to implement some new checks and balances, aka scrutiny of the engineers performance)
Another scenario would be questioning the engineer as to why the OWS  is being used so much (ie costing th e company more money), and that 'we' (the company) have never had these difficulties with any other of our engineers.
The magic pipe is not unique to Princess vessels, nor is knowledge of its use, or why it would be used.
At any rate, sufficient layers of protection for executives exist in the tiers of employees on the ladder.
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